Saturday, March 12, 2011

Gandhi's in Hell. He is?

In a recent Facebook discussion regarding Rob Bell's upcoming book, 'Love Wins', a number of questions came up on who gets into Heaven and who does not.  The short video below (also a trailer for the book) simply addresses the controversial issue.


"Gandhi's in Hell.  He is?  And someone knows this for sure and felt the need to let the rest of us know?  Will only a few select people make it to Heaven and will billions and billions burn forever in Hell?"

This statement alone brings up so many questions; How is one to ever know where another resides after death?  Why do we all so naturally want to make a judgment like this?  When the Bible tells us so little about Heaven and Hell, why is this our focus and not on the real message of the Bible - Love?

Although the above questions and many more have been asked by believers and unbelievers alike, those are not the questions I'm going to attempt to answer in this post.  I'm going to explain my logic, based on scripture as to why we can't know where anyone is after death, regardless of their religion or professions of faith.  Time willing, I will follow this up with another blog called, 'What must I do to be saved?'

Here is a short simple breakdown of my logic;
  1. What God wants from us more than anything, and I believe his reason for creating us, is so we could love Him and He could love us.
  2. Love cannot exist without freewill. Robots cannot love. Love requires that choice and ability must exist to love or choose not to love.
  3. So God created man with freewill so that we could truly love him, since without it we wouldn't have the freedom to or not.
  4. If a native in Africa never hears about God…how can he choose to love or reject him? Freewill is essentially removed if the knowledge of the choice doesn’t exist. If a mentally disabled person or an infant never claims the name of Jesus, are they destined for Hell?  Not only does that not sound like the just loving God the Bible tells us about, but once again those individuals never really had the ability to choose either.
  5. So in conclusion, I believe that man, every man entering the world must have enough of something inside him to love or reject God.
The Bible refers to that 'something' or that choice as light.  John 1:8-9 He himself was not the light, but he came to testify about the light. He was the true light, who gives light to everyone who comes into the world (italics mine).
  
CS Lewis refers to this as The Natural Law. I put the basic argument below. I know its long  but think it’s essential to flush out my position. Here is a link if you want to read the full text.
   
“Everyone has heard people quarrelling. Sometimes it sounds funny and sometimes it sounds merely unpleasant; but however it sounds, I believe we can learn something very important from listening to the kind of things they say. They say things like this: 'How'd you like it if anyone did the same to you?' - 'That's my seat, I was there first' - 'Leave him alone, he isn't doing you any harm' - 'Why should you shove in first?' - 'Give me a bit of your orange, I gave you a bit of mine' - 'Come on, you promised.' People say things like that every day, educated people as well as uneducated, and children as well as grown-ups.

Now what interests me about all these remarks is that the man who makes them is not merely saying that the other man's behavior does not happen to please him. He is appealing to some kind of standard of behavior which he expects the other man to know about. And the other man very seldom replies: 'To hell with your standard.' Nearly always he tries to make out that what he has been doing does not really go against the standard, or that if it does there is some special excuse. He pretends there is some special reason in this particular case why the person who took the seat first should not keep it, or that things were quite different when he was given the bit of orange, or that something has turned up which lets him off keeping his promise. It looks, in fact, very much as if both parties had in mind some kind of Law or Rule of fair play or decent behavior or morality or whatever you like to call it, about which they really agreed. And they have. If they had not, they might, of course, fight like animals, but they could not quarrel in the human sense of the word quarrelling means trying to show that the other man is in the wrong. And there would be no sense in trying to do that unless you and he had some sort of agreement as to what Right and Wrong are; just as there would be no sense in saying that a footballer had committed a foul unless there was some agreement about the rules of football.

I know that some people say the idea of a Law of Nature or decent behavior known to all men is unsound, because different civilizations and different ages have had quite different moralities.  But this is not true. There have been differences between their moralities, but these have never amounted to anything like a total difference. If anyone will take the trouble to compare the moral teaching of, say, the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Hindus, Chinese, Greeks and Romans, what will really strike him will be how very like they are to each other and to our own. Some of the evidence for this I have put together in the appendix of another book called The Abolition of Man; but for our present purpose I need only ask the reader to think what a totally different morality would mean. Think of a country where people were admired for running away in battle, or where a man felt proud of double-crossing all the people who had been kindest to him. You might just as well try to imagine a country where two and two made five. Men have differed as regards what people you ought to be unselfish to - whether it was only your own family, or your fellow countrymen, or every one. But they have always agreed that you ought not to put yourself first. Selfishness has never been admired. Men have differed as to whether you should have one wife or four. But they have always agreed that you must not simply have any woman you liked.

But the most remarkable thing is this. Whenever you find a man who says he does not believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later. He may break his promise to you, but if you try breaking one to him he will be complaining 'It's not fair' before you can say Jack Robinson. A nation may say treaties don't matter; but then, next minute, they spoil their case by saying that the particular treaty they want to break was an unfair one. But if treaties do not matter, and if there is no such thing as Right and Wrong - in other words, if there is no Law of Nature - what is the difference between a fair treaty and an unfair one? Have they not let the cat out of the bag and shown that, whatever they say, they really know the Law of Nature just like anyone else?”

In the above passage, CS Lewis illustrates the choice, light or that 'something' given to all mankind.  It can get muddied with our upbringing or experiences, but I believe the history of mankind shows us it's virtually universal and remarkably specific.  The vast majority of the world believes in a higher power, regardless of what they call it. The vast majority of the world has a set of moral guidelines they believe the higher power wants them to follow.  The vast majority of the world believes in an afterlife.  Belief in a creator is virtually universal.  I believe that is because there is something inside every one of us, regardless of where we were born or how we were raised that tells us there is a creator and allows us the freewill choice to love or reject Him.

So how does this effect Gandhi or anyone else that happens to believe differently than we do?  I believe that God has judges our hearts, not our knowledge, not our theology, not our good or bad works - simply our hearts.  No one other than God can know Gandhi's heart.  And even if we could, there is no reason to believe that God judges us all the same.  In fact there is reason to believe the opposite - Luke 12:48 From everyone who has been given much, much will be required, and from the one who has been entrusted with much, even more will be asked.  But perhaps again, I will save that for another blog.

As always, I look forward to your comments if you agree and especially if you don't.

Prayers By Temperament

ISTJ: God, help me to relax about insignificant details beginning tomorrow at 11:41:23 a.m. E.S.T.

ISTP: God, help me to consider people’s feelings, even if most of them ARE hyper-sensitive.

ESTP: God, help me to take responsibility for my own actions, even though they’re usually NOT my fault.

ESTJ: God, help me to not try to RUN everything. But, if You need some help, just ask.

ISFJ: God, help me to be more laid back and help me to do it EXACTLY right.

ISFP: God, help me to stand up for my rights (if you don’t mind my asking).

ESFP: God, help me to take things more seriously, especially parties and dancing.

ESFJ: God, give me patience, and I mean right NOW.

INFJ: God, help me not to be a perfectionist (did I spell that correctly?).

INFP: God, help me to finish everything I sta

ENFP: God, help me to keep my mind on one th – Look a bird! – at a time.

ENFJ: God, help me to do only what I can and trust you for the rest. Do you mind putting that in writing?

INTJ: God, keep me open to others' ideas, WRONG though they may be.

INTP: God, help me to be less independent, but let me do it my way.

ENTP: God, help me follow established procedures all day today. On second thought, I’ll settle for a few minutes.

ENTJ: God, help me slow downandnotrushthroughwhatIdo.

Friday, October 1, 2010

Church Bulletin Bloopers


Thank God for church ladies with typewriters. These sentences actually appeared in church bulletins or were announced in church services:

*    Bertha Belch, a missionary from Africa, will be speaking tonight at Calvary Methodist. Come hear Bertha Belch all the way from Africa.

*    The sermon this morning: "Jesus Walks on the Water." The sermon tonight: "Searching for Jesus."

*    Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Don't forget your husbands

*    The peacemaking meeting scheduled for today has been canceled due to a conflict.

*    Remember in prayer the many who are sick in our community. Smile at someone who is hard to love. Say "Hell" to someone who doesn't care much about you.

*    Don't l et worry kill you off - let the Church help.

*    Miss Charlene Mason sang "I will not pass this way again," giving obvious pleasure to the congregation.

*    For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs..

*    Next Thursday there will be tryouts for the choir. They need all the help they can get.

*    The Rector will preach his farewell message after which the choir will sing: "Break Forth Into Joy."

*    Irving Benson and Jessie Carter were married on October 24 in the church. So ends a friendship that began in their school days.

*    A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall.. Music will follow.

*    At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What Is Hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice.

*    Eight new choir robes are currently needed due to the addition of several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones.

*    Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

*    The church will host an evening of fine dining, super entertainment and gracious hostility.

*    Potluck supper Sunday at 5:00 PM - prayer and medication to follow.

*    The ladies of the Church have cast off clothing of every kind. They may be seen in the basement on Friday afternoon.

*    Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10 AM. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B. S. is done.

*    Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM. Please use the back door.

*    The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.

*    Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian Church Please use large double door at the side entrance.

*    The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours."

Sunday, September 12, 2010

On a Scale From 1 to 10 - How Strong is Your Faith?

When asked 'On a scale from 1 to 10 - how strong is your faith', we are quick to put up 10 fingers.  But would our lives reflect that?

This discrepancy between what we profess to believe and how we actually live is not new.  To solve this we encourage each other to make God apart of their day, every day; perhaps by scheduling in some worship time before work or committing to read through the Bible in a year.  I'm not saying these things are bad, it just doesn't appear as though this works for any length of time for most people.  Before long they have a project come up at work and no longer have time to spend with God in the mornings.  Or they go on vacation and begin to miss their daily Bible readings and never to take them up again.  Christians become convinced that if they just had more discipline, they would be more spiritual.  Many who look at Christians see a group of people who's lives don't match their belief system. 

Or do their lives match their beliefs?

I don't think the problem is with the way Christians live.  The problem is with how much they actually believe.  How much discipline does it take for you to go to work each day?  Do you have to remind or discipline yourself to go in?  Do you keep renewing commitments like 'this week I'm going to go to work everyday, no matter what'?  I'm guessing you don’t.  I'm guessing you get up every weekday and some weekends and spend 8-12 hours a day at work without much thought at all.  Why is it that it takes less discipline to work 50 hours every week for 45 years than it does to read a few chapters in the Bible everyday for the next year?

The answer may seem obvious.  If I don't work, I don't get paid.  If I don't get paid, I can't make my mortgage and car payments.  If I don't get paid, I can't afford to send the kids to college.  If I don't get paid, I can't travel home this Christmas.  There are other kinds of reasons too.  If I stop showing up to work, everyone will think I'm lazy.  If I lost this job, I might end up working at a Taco Bell somewhere.  If I don't show up, I might not get my promotion.  If asked 'on a scale from 1 to 10 - how important is your work', we might reply with something like 'I care about being a productive member of society, but the money's not all that important.  I just want to make enough for my family to be 'comfortable'.  So we might answer with a 6 out of 10.  We don't value it that highly yet we show up everyday for years without hesitation.

So how do we reconcile this?  If our faith is the most important thing and work is significantly less important, why do we spend so much more time working than building our faith?  Why do we have to discipline ourselves to read the Bible or pray, but then bring our Blackberries home and continue to work off the clock?

I believe it comes down to a couple of issues;  

First, work provides tangible benefits that we believe will add to our happiness.  We know when we're hired how much we will make and if we'll have a dental plan.  We know what level of income will cover our current lifestyle.  We know how much respect a director's title and corner office provide.  As Christians, we are promised Heaven.  Unfortunately we don't know much about Heaven and what's written doesn't necessarily sound all that appealing.  Worshiping God all day and night sounds like…well to be honest, it sounds like work.  The streets of gold thing is enticing, but I'm guessing gold isn't a form of currency in Heaven.  As for earth, we're promised that God will work with us to develop things like character and patience. (Rom 8:29, Gal 5:22) Hmmmm...are those redeemable for a cash value?  Because frankly, I have all the patience I want!

Second, at work we are confident we will get paid.  If your new boss gave you his word that you would eventually be paid for all your work and he just wasn't sure when; how long would you work on that promise alone?  My guess is not very long, if at all.  I certainly wouldn't.  To work at all would take a fair amount of trust in your boss and his character, and to work for years without pay would take a great deal of trust.  God has given us a promise that we will be rewarded after we die.  However, we don't know when that will happen.  And frankly, a lifetime is long time to work just on the promise that it will be worth our while.

When it comes to spiritual things, you really have to trust (or have faith) in God, his goodness and unchanging character before you'll be willing to spend your time on something you're not even sure you'll want  and that you won't get for a really long time. 

The problem is a lack of faith not a lack of discipline.

At the end of the day, our lives do reflect our belief systems.  We spend time, money and energy on those things we care about.  If it snows at the beginning of the week, many will skip church because 'the roads are too bad'.  But how many of those same folks miss work the next day?  If everyone was honest, first with themselves and then others, God would rank well below many other items in our lives.  Consider your day; compare how many hours you spend in spiritual pursuits to how many you give to your employer.  How about compared to your softball league?  Compared to TV?  Compared to family?  Compared to Facebook?

I'm not bringing this up to make people feel guilty.  Guilt won't fix the problem anymore than discipline will.  But we can't fix a problem until we know what's broken.  The problem is not how much time you have.  The problem is not that you don't have enough money.  The problem is not lack of self-discipline.  The problem is a lack of faith.

If I believed a little more that God is real…
If I believed a little more Bible is true…
If I believed a little more in Christ's love for me...
If I believed a little more that this life is a small blip of time compared to eternity… 

If I really believed a little more in Hebrews 11:6... I would live my life very very differently. 

Hebrews 11:6 "Now without faith it is impossible to please him, for the one who approaches God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him."